Best Oil Filter? and worst? and what does dealer use?

I hope I'm posting this in the right spot ,My apologies if not

Hello all,

I am almost due for an oil change, my first one with my new (used) Tundra 5.7

when i was younger Fram was king, there were Fram filters then there was the "cheapies"

my how things have changed, i was googling to find the Fram that fits my truck and the amount of negative opinions out there changed my mind

Did Fram go from "leader of the pack" to complete garbage in just 20 short years? (last time i paid attention)

says many have failed in cold weather..... and I'm in Fargo ND

it seems NAPA Gold or Wix are more trusted now

If i decide NOT to do it myself, what will the dealer use?..... i know it will be labeled Toyota, but who makes it?

If i do it myself i would probably go Mobil 1 oil and i would like the best filter made

any help would be appreciated
thanks

I hope I'm posting this in the right spot ,My apologies if not

Hello all,

I am almost due for an oil change, my first one with my new (used) Tundra 5.7

when i was younger Fram was king, there were Fram filters then there was the "cheapies"

my how things have changed, i was googling to find the Fram that fits my truck and the amount of negative opinions out there changed my mind

Did Fram go from "leader of the pack" to complete garbage in just 20 short years? (last time i paid attention)

says many have failed in cold weather..... and I'm in Fargo ND

it seems NAPA Gold or Wix are more trusted now

If i decide NOT to do it myself, what will the dealer use?..... i know it will be labeled Toyota, but who makes it?

If i do it myself i would probably go Mobil 1 oil and i would like the best filter made

any help would be appreciated
thanks

Toyota doesn't make their own filters from what I know, they are supplied to them by a Japanese (typically) company. Fram does make some filters for Honda OEM. I don't care for Fram oil filters much, the vehicles seem to get valve train noise when using them. Plus, they tend to be as expensive as the OEM filter (Delco or Motorcraft) in my case.

+1 on the Toyota filter. I have GM cars and my sister has Fords. I use the Delco and Motorcraft filters respectively. I use the Napa (Wix) filter on my nephew's 2.4L Ecotec because the PF458G that I need with a gasket is a PITA to find compared to the Napa filter which I can get on the fly in Northern NJ when I go to visit. I sometimes do get the PF458G or the PF457GO online.

In my case, the Delco and Motorcraft filters are a snap to find online, locally or at Walmart. okay....
I sold a lot of oil filters.
we had a guy take several oil filters and cut the sides out and mount them on a board. we had one for display in each of our 6 stores so the customer could see the guts of the filters: ours and a few competitive brands.

We sold Purolator (the people who invented the oil filter), a second line labeled "Super" (Hutchins Industries), as well as Purolator's "Group 7" (probably not even around anymore) and STP filters (because they had killer promo money.)

FRAM oil filters are garbage. Cut one open and take a look. Great advertising campaign, lots of ad money, crap product.

I've never looked at a "PureONE".
I run a Motorcraft filter on my Ranger.
AC made a damn good filter. don't know if that's still the case.

currently your best options are probably WIX and Hastings. WIX manufactures for several different companies, as mentioned above.

got it . El cheapo carquest white filter no go. Black expensive wix yes.

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- re wix:
no, the filter is only made for three IH engines, the l4 3.2l 196 cid engine, the mv404 (6.6l) engine and the 404 gas engine .

the correct spin-on wix filter for most IH gas engines is .
this is for most every pickup, Travelall, and Scout with any gas engine from the l4 3.2l 196 cid engine through the v8 6.4l 392 cid engine . although I don't see any performance specification difference between the two on their web site catalog (other than burst pressure), there are a lot of other oil filter specs not mentioned, and there must be a reason why wix does not recommend them both equally for all these engines . I looked at both recently at an auto parts store, and the definitely felt heavier .
http://www.wixfilters.com/lookup/pa...rfriendly.asp?url=partentry.asp&partnumber=b2
B:
http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/pa...iendly.asp?url=partentry.asp&partnumber=b

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- re k&n:
as for the k & n oil filters, the ps- and hp- have the 8 to 11 psi by-pass, but no mention of actual micron filtering size . all they say is 99% contaminates removed, but not 99% of what size . they also have an interesting reusable oil filter I never saw before:
http://www.knfilters.com/search/pro...hed specs on the b ? thank you . steve This is interesting steve. I'd never visited the wix website to browse through their application charts before today. On the occasion of the first lof I did on my Scout many years ago, I went with a purolator filter because that's what I knew and used on my daily drivers. In the purolator application guide, l is the recommended filter for the IH i4 and sv8 offerings. This part number crosses to a plethora of Ford and chrysler engines from the 60's through the 80's and beyond. So when I switched to the wix brand, I applied the same crossing logic in making my filter selection of , as it is often easier to find parts for the big 3 than our obsolete orphans. I've never had any issues with this filter on my sv8 engines. According to the spec sheets below, the burst pressure is the only difference between the two. With the low operating pressures these lubrication systems generate, I find it odd that a canister with such a high burst rate would be a necessity. Also odd is that for the '73-'74 scouts with 196 engine, the filter is spec'd, but not for the 152 and 196 engines for any other years. There's nothing different about the lubrication systems in those engines from one year to the next, the next, the next...so on and so forth. Good enough for one or two years, good enough for all. This part of the engine wasn't subject to radical evolution and change over the production years. Anyway, the specs for both wix filters are below for comparison/contrast.

specs:
part details

specs:
part details

this is interesting steve. I'd never visited the wix website to browse through their application charts before today. On the occasion of the first lof I did on my Scout many years ago, I went with a purolator filter because that's what I knew and used on my daily drivers. In the purolator application guide, l is the recommended filter for the IH i4 and sv8 offerings. This part number crosses to a plethora of Ford and chrysler engines from the 60's through the 80's and beyond. So when I switched to the wix brand, I applied the same crossing logic in making my filter selection of , as it is often easier to find parts for the big 3 than our obsolete orphans. I've never had any issues with this filter on my sv8 engines. According to the spec sheets below, the burst pressure is the only difference between the two. With the low operating pressures these lubrication systems generate, I find it odd that a canister with such a high burst rate would be a necessity. Also odd is that for the '73-'74 scouts with 196 engine, the filter is spec'd, but not for the 152 and 196 engines for any other years. There's nothing different about the lubrication systems in those engines from one year to the next, the next, the next...so on and so forth. Good enough for one or two years, good enough for all. This part of the engine wasn't subject to radical evolution and change over the production years. Anyway, the specs for both wix filters are below for comparison/contrast.

specs:
part details

specs:
part details

Hi,
I don't know IH engines too well, so I did not know for sure. I suspect because wix is such a big corporation, and there are so many different applications for both filters, that one part of the company did not know what the other part of the company was doing. So two different but basically interchangeable filters were developed, but each with their own applications. I held carquest and the two other filters in my hands at the same time. The felt slightly heavier than the other two, but might only be a heavier can, as if our engines might accidentally put out 300 psi. ;-)

I'm still researching the b. I know that there are a lot of web sites out there with cut away views of filters, and that discuses the deference's between cardboard inserts and metal, so I wont go into it here, but a sure way to tell that there is a difference is to just pick them up. The weight difference between a good quality filter and cheap one is huge.

For me its motorcraft all the way, or hastings. They make filters for some of the big three.

When I worked at the Ford dealer, we would have costumers complain about lifter rattle on cold start up on the 4.0 and 5.0l engines. We would tell them it was because they were not using a motorcraft filter with a check valve to prevent lifter leak down. To this we would usually get a bs! " your just trying to charge me more for a filter". We would offer to change their oil, and if the lifter rattle didn't go away, the oil change was on us, and we would pay for any oil filter of their choice. We never had to do a refund.

I use the fl1a on my 80. I have had 5 rangers over the years, all of them with multiple 100,000 miles on the clock with motorcraft oil and filters. If its good enough for that, its good enough for the Scout.

Now about oils...